What exhaust for the Judge?

2165 Turbo Rail · 07-31-2010, 12:03 AM

I'm going to be putting exhaust on the Judge (Manifold back)

any suggestions on what I should go with?

(it has the 400 in it still.)

OrangeChevyII · 07-31-2010, 05:12 PM

Magnaflow makes a real nice kit.

mikeb · 07-31-2010, 05:32 PM

I used a pypes 2.5 kit with x pipe and their street pro mufflers for my daughters 79 trans am with a 400. This is absolutely one of the best sounding systems i've ever heard on a pontiac. Too often exhausts for pontacs make them sound like tractors, but this one sounds sweet. It's a little loud but not objectionable. If you can wait until next friday i'll put a sound clip up for you to hear.

Cooter · 07-31-2010, 05:33 PM

I hate glasspacks (magnaflow)

to me, an NA V8 needs a chambered muffler

2165 Turbo Rail · 07-31-2010, 08:43 PM

mike I can probably wait till Thursday or friday. I am supposed to pick it up from the paint shop wednesday and then Thursday we are going to do a few things to it and then Friday or Satursday maybe i'm going to get the exhaust done.

Baron · 08-01-2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Magnaflow makes a real nice kit.

some jackass told me kits suck...

mikeb · 08-01-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

mike I can probably wait till Thursday or friday. I am supposed to pick it up from the paint shop wednesday and then Thursday we are going to do a few things to it and then Friday or Satursday maybe i'm going to get the exhaust done.

I've got some stuff to do friday morning but after that stuff is done i'll record what my daughters t/a sounds like and put that up in this thread for you.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-01-2010, 05:00 PM

Thanks

mikeb · 08-06-2010, 03:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPMe3Y4KSeg

had to dodge a rain storm so maybe not the best quality

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-06-2010, 03:41 PM

Thanks for the video mikeB. The car is almost done so I'll post bids in a bit

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-06-2010, 10:26 PM

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~ · 08-06-2010, 10:35 PM

open headers! make sure you drive it every morning so the neighbors dont oversleep...

SSMAN · 08-07-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPMe3Y4KSeg

had to dodge a rain storm so maybe not the best quality

You daughter has a lot of junk in her trunk.

I think the garage diminishes the sound a bit.

SSMAN · 08-07-2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

Ok, the giant hand scared the shit out of me....

Nice car, can we get some pics of it?

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-07-2010, 08:15 AM

started out like this a couple weeks ago

after a little bit of body work and some pain on the hood and deck lid, some 18's and 20's and lowered a bit we now have (the entire car was cleared so we took off the judge stickers. They are ordered and should be here next week, we are trying to get the car finished before Summers last blast in Vernon next weekend)

(ignore the LP its getting fixed this weekend)

mikeb · 08-07-2010, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

Nice!

CRASH · 08-07-2010, 10:12 AM

It's amazing what a little lowering and a wheel swap will do for the looks of a car !! Looks good now !

-Aaron

SSMAN · 08-07-2010, 10:16 AM

Very Nice. Looks red in the first pic and orange in the rest.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-07-2010, 04:16 PM

It's caroursel red. So it's te same as hugger orange

JKD · 08-07-2010, 04:22 PM

Flowmasters or nothing.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-07-2010, 05:38 PM

I decided a chambered muffler was the way yo go too Steve. They aren't flowmaters but the are exactly the same and cheaper. The shop showed a flow and this side by side an you can look into them and everything is the same

Sam88Gta · 08-07-2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

I decided a chambered muffler was the way yo go too Steve. They aren't flowmaters but the are exactly the same and cheaper. The shop showed a flow and this side by side an you can look into them and everything is the same

Please dont put a junk wanna-be flowmaster on that car. It would sound like a real muscle car with a Magnaflow on it.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-08-2010, 08:07 AM

too late Sam I already did. and I like the way it sounds
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

JKD · 08-08-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

too late Sam I already did. and I like the way it sounds
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

That sounds really good Chris. It's coming along nicely sir!

Cooter · 08-08-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam88Gta

Please dont put a junk wanna-be flowmaster on that car. It would sound like a real muscle car with a Magnaflow on it.

overpriced glasspacks FTL!!!

SNEAKY · 08-08-2010, 01:34 PM

saw you driving down I35 today. i was in the little red truck, and trailer with the bike on the trailer and yellow quad in the bed.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-08-2010, 02:02 PM

I remember yhe set up sneaky. How'd the car look going down the road?

Sam88Gta · 08-08-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooter

overpriced glasspacks FTL!!!

Cheap knockoff Flowmasters FTL!
Ive seen alot of those mufflers fall apart after 6 months time.

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

too late Sam I already did. and I like the way it sounds
http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4

Oh man, your gonna regret that. I can buy those knock off mufflers for 17 bucks each all day long. If you were gonna put the flowdisasters on it you should have spent the money and put the real flowdisasters on it.

Flowmaster sound good, just not the best option for max power. I understand if you have a stock motor, flowdisasters fit the needs to make a non aggressive motor sound like it has balls.

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 02:18 PM

and the car looks bad ass btw.

SNEAKY · 08-08-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2165 Turbo Rail

I remember yhe set up sneaky. How'd the car look going down the road?

yeah, i saw you coming up next to me and look straight over at us.

looked good. not sure if i could have rolled down the highway in this heat with the windows rolled down though. or maybe i was still just to hot from riding.

Cooter · 08-08-2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam88Gta

Cheap knockoff Flowmasters FTL!
Ive seen alot of those mufflers fall apart after 6 months time.

just saying I'd rather run flows or similar on an NA muscle car than glasspacks

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooter

just saying I'd rather run flows or similar on an NA muscle car than glasspacks

Magnaflows sound nothing like glasspacks, at all.

JKD · 08-08-2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Oh man, your gonna regret that. I can buy those knock off mufflers for 17 bucks each all day long. If you were gonna put the flowdisasters on it you should have spent the money and put the real flowdisasters on it.

Flowmaster sound good, just not the best option for max power. I understand if you have a stock motor, flowdisasters fit the needs to make a non aggressive motor sound like it has balls.

It's a cruiser not a race car. I don't think his Pops cares if it makes 5-10hp less as long as it sounds good and not sound like a backfiring farm truck.

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 03:00 PM

I was simply stating the mufflers that are knock offs are not the best of quality, they rattle when the welds break on the chambers. As bad as I dislike flowmasters, they dont break or rattle.

Flowmaster actually makes a muffler called the "knock off flowmaster", all the part numbers are the same, instead of 42443 it's KO42443.

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Flowmaster sound good, just not the best option for max power. I understand if you have a stock motor, flowdisasters fit the needs to make a non aggressive motor sound like it has balls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKD

It's a cruiser not a race car. I don't think his Pops cares if it makes 5-10hp less as long as it sounds good and not sound like a backfiring farm truck.

See

Cooter · 08-08-2010, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Magnaflows sound nothing like glasspacks, at all.

they're packed... I don't like packed mufflers

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 03:16 PM

We dont even carry those things you speak of, I cant tell you when the last time we sold one either. Alot of people still want Flowmasters, alot of people want them because thats all they know. They are like the old Smitty mufflers, people just want them becuase of the name. Thats all thats really been available to them till the late 90's when Magnaflow came around.

Baron · 08-08-2010, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

We dont even carry those things you speak of, I cant tell you when the last time we sold one either. Alot of people still want Flowmasters, alot of people want them because thats all they know. They are like the old Smitty mufflers, people just want them becuase of the name. Thats all thats really been available to them till the late 90's when Magnaflow came around.

I am happy with the sound of mine, but if you were putting the muffler of your choice on it, what would it have been?

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 05:07 PM

Stock style motors in early model cars need a chambered muffler, if it has a rough idle magnaflow. I think the droan that any chambered muffler has is a sound killer.

Flowmasters sound good on stock cars, makes em sound like they make alot more power then they do.

Magnaflow is just the opposite. They make a mean sounding car sound quiet. I've never ran flowmasters on anything other then my 6 cylinder s10 truck. All my hipo cars have always had magnaflow. My ultimate goal is more power, magnaflow is hands down the best application for those seeking power.

slvr01 · 08-08-2010, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Stock style motors in early model cars need a chambered muffler, if it has a rough idle magnaflow. I think the droan that any chambered muffler has is a sound killer.

Flowmasters sound good on stock cars, makes em sound like they make alot more power then they do.

Magnaflow is just the opposite. They make a mean sounding car sound quiet. I've never ran flowmasters on anything other then my 6 cylinder s10 truck. All my hipo cars have always had magnaflow. My ultimate goal is more power, magnaflow is hands down the best application for those seeking power.

So you're one of those guy's

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slvr01

So you're one of those guy's

What does that mean?

slvr01 · 08-08-2010, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

What does that mean?

It means imo I think it's stupid to put anything other than an oem muffler on a 6 or 4 cyl truck it sounds terrible. I always laugh when I hear a Ranger or s10 with that kind of exhaust. It's seams like a douche thing to do.

OrangeChevyII · 08-08-2010, 06:24 PM

Your right, I agree. At the time I was 16 almost 14 years ago.

But I see now, your one of those people.

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-08-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

I understand if you have a stock motor, flowdisasters fit the needs to make a non aggressive motor sound like it has balls.

THIS says it all. The car isn't fast at all but we wanted the sound

2165 Turbo Rail · 08-08-2010, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNEAKY

yeah, i saw you coming up next to me and look straight over at us.

looked good. not sure if i could have rolled down the highway in this heat with the windows rolled down though. or maybe i was still just to hot from riding.

It was hit as he'll but I was driving the car from my dads lake place ti fort worth where they are installing the AC ( factory ac car but someone pulled everything ac related out of the car except the vents and controlls in te dash)

Cooter · 08-08-2010, 07:42 PM

on a high powered NA car, I prefer an x-pipe and large-ish chambered mufflers... I just don't like the way a packed muffler clips all the sharp edges off of the exhaust note

slvr01 · 08-08-2010, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeChevyII

Your right, I agree. At the time I was 16 almost 14 years ago.

But I see now, your one of those people.

Even when I was that age I thought it was stupid.

Cooter · 08-08-2010, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slvr01

Even when I was that age I thought it was stupid.

I did when I was 16, but when I was 14-15, I didn't

at least he's man enough to admit it!

good on ya

07-31-2010, 12:03 AM	#1
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	What exhaust for the Judge? I'm going to be putting exhaust on the Judge (Manifold back) any suggestions on what I should go with? (it has the 400 in it still.) __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

07-31-2010, 05:12 PM	#2
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	Magnaflow makes a real nice kit. __________________ Who wants to race?

07-31-2010, 05:33 PM	#4
Cooter mannish boy Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: drunk on diesel Posts: 32,443	I hate glasspacks (magnaflow) to me, an NA V8 needs a chambered muffler __________________ got a diesel? I probably have a turbo for ya

07-31-2010, 08:43 PM	#5
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	mike I can probably wait till Thursday or friday. I am supposed to pick it up from the paint shop wednesday and then Thursday we are going to do a few things to it and then Friday or Satursday maybe i'm going to get the exhaust done. __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-01-2010, 05:00 PM	#8
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	Thanks __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

07-31-2010, 05:32 PM	#3
mikeb IA2 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 22,372	I used a pypes 2.5 kit with x pipe and their street pro mufflers for my daughters 79 trans am with a 400. This is absolutely one of the best sounding systems i've ever heard on a pontiac. Too often exhausts for pontacs make them sound like tractors, but this one sounds sweet. It's a little loud but not objectionable. If you can wait until next friday i'll put a sound clip up for you to hear.

08-06-2010, 03:35 PM	#9
mikeb IA2 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 22,372	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPMe3Y4KSeg had to dodge a rain storm so maybe not the best quality

08-06-2010, 03:41 PM	#10
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	Thanks for the video mikeB. The car is almost done so I'll post bids in a bit __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-06-2010, 10:26 PM	#11
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4 __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-06-2010, 10:35 PM	#12
Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~ Lifer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: DFW Posts: 12,963	open headers! make sure you drive it every morning so the neighbors dont oversleep... __________________ 98 Cobra (Work in Progress)

08-07-2010, 08:15 AM	#15
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	started out like this a couple weeks ago after a little bit of body work and some pain on the hood and deck lid, some 18's and 20's and lowered a bit we now have (the entire car was cleared so we took off the judge stickers. They are ordered and should be here next week, we are trying to get the car finished before Summers last blast in Vernon next weekend) (ignore the LP its getting fixed this weekend) __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-07-2010, 10:12 AM	#17
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08-07-2010, 10:16 AM	#18
SSMAN Darkside Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Slipped over to the dark side. Posts: 19,931	Very Nice. Looks red in the first pic and orange in the rest. __________________ "Time is the best teacher.........unfortunately it kills everyone of its students"

08-07-2010, 04:16 PM	#19
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	It's caroursel red. So it's te same as hugger orange __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-07-2010, 04:22 PM	#20
JKD Gracie Jiu Jitsu Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The weapon is only as good as the person wielding it. Posts: 15,884	Flowmasters or nothing. __________________ Shrimp'n ain't easy.... I buy cash cars. If you need money and have a car to sell, gimme a PM.

08-07-2010, 05:38 PM	#21
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	I decided a chambered muffler was the way yo go too Steve. They aren't flowmaters but the are exactly the same and cheaper. The shop showed a flow and this side by side an you can look into them and everything is the same __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-08-2010, 08:07 AM	#23
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	too late Sam I already did. and I like the way it sounds http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...1969GTO081.mp4 __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-08-2010, 01:34 PM	#26
SNEAKY Merry HoHo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: User Id: 30310 Name: SneakyDaPimp Posts: 32,717	saw you driving down I35 today. i was in the little red truck, and trailer with the bike on the trailer and yellow quad in the bed. __________________ .(OBAMA) One Big Ass Mistake America

08-08-2010, 02:02 PM	#27
2165 Turbo Rail Lifer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Carrollton, TX Posts: 2,128	I remember yhe set up sneaky. How'd the car look going down the road? __________________ 2004 GT SOLD 1959 Galaxie bagged SOLD 2165cc aircooled VW motor with a T-3 turbo 1400# with me in it..... 7.06@93.5 MPH with a 1.53 60ft on 15psi on slicks 7.42@92.2mph pn 30psi! on street tires

08-08-2010, 02:18 PM	#30
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	and the car looks bad ass btw. __________________ Who wants to race?

08-08-2010, 03:00 PM	#35
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	I was simply stating the mufflers that are knock offs are not the best of quality, they rattle when the welds break on the chambers. As bad as I dislike flowmasters, they dont break or rattle. Flowmaster actually makes a muffler called the "knock off flowmaster", all the part numbers are the same, instead of 42443 it's KO42443. __________________ Who wants to race?

08-08-2010, 03:16 PM	#38
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	We dont even carry those things you speak of, I cant tell you when the last time we sold one either. Alot of people still want Flowmasters, alot of people want them because thats all they know. They are like the old Smitty mufflers, people just want them becuase of the name. Thats all thats really been available to them till the late 90's when Magnaflow came around. __________________ Who wants to race?

08-08-2010, 05:07 PM	#40
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	Stock style motors in early model cars need a chambered muffler, if it has a rough idle magnaflow. I think the droan that any chambered muffler has is a sound killer. Flowmasters sound good on stock cars, makes em sound like they make alot more power then they do. Magnaflow is just the opposite. They make a mean sounding car sound quiet. I've never ran flowmasters on anything other then my 6 cylinder s10 truck. All my hipo cars have always had magnaflow. My ultimate goal is more power, magnaflow is hands down the best application for those seeking power. __________________ Who wants to race?

08-08-2010, 06:24 PM	#44
OrangeChevyII Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Forney Posts: 5,877	Your right, I agree. At the time I was 16 almost 14 years ago. But I see now, your one of those people. __________________ Who wants to race?

08-08-2010, 07:42 PM	#47
Cooter mannish boy Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: drunk on diesel Posts: 32,443	on a high powered NA car, I prefer an x-pipe and large-ish chambered mufflers... I just don't like the way a packed muffler clips all the sharp edges off of the exhaust note __________________ got a diesel? I probably have a turbo for ya

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